Sunday, March 16, 2014

Savannah monitor questions?




Dark Ryok


Ok, Ive been looking at these guys for a while. My local shop just got in two savannahs and a nile monitor. Ive already done quite a bit of research on both of them, and I believe the savannah is more my style. Im not sure if Im going to by just one, or both of them. Im going to start them in a 55 gallon. But I have the room to build a large fenced off area in my room for them.

But the main question is... To those who have savannahs, how do you like them? How do they interact between them and you?
Thanks. I wasnt sure if they were social guys or not. The research Ive done was a few weeks ago when I first thought about it. The niles looked nice, but I had already heard how mean they can get, so I already crossed them off the list.
Im used to fish. I do my research with them. Most fish I can do adequate research in about a weeks time because most fish are about the same care wise. Ive had experience with reptiles before. I had a leopard gecko and fat-tailed gecko for 6-7 years. I owned a snake for about 8 months before my dad decided he didnt want me keeping it, so I gave him to a cousin that still has him. Im not a novice in the hobby, but I still have a ways to go. I understand I need to do more research. Im just tossing the idea around and seeing what peoples opinions are on them first. Ive heard good things from a few friends at the pet store about them. And a few other friends have been around them and have nothing bad to say. If my mind is made up on getting one, Ill do my research then. I researched stuff about them quite a bit a few weeks back, but ended up getting a few more fish tanks and delayed the savannah.
With owning 7 fish tanks ranging from 20-90 gallons, I want something I can mess with. And I dont want anything common. Savannahs caught my eye months back in a Petco. Then a local store got several shipments of them in, and these guys were about 8 inches long. Thats when I started getting interested again. If The savannah falls through , Ill start a sugar gilder colony. lmao.
Seriously. I was asking about their temperament and behavior. Not care. I wanted to know how they acted. Thank you for providing me with information that I dont care about.



Answer
Well, I got my first baby savannah monitor from kingsnake.com.
I paid 60$ shipped. I do not regret paying so much money. It is a lot better to get them when they are younger, so you can control their temperment. I love my baby sav, his name is little. I got him when he was 6 inches, and now is about 14 inches. But he is growing. Savannah monitors generally have good temperments. They grow to be about 3-5 feet. They are very good monitors for starters though. You do not want to get a nile monitor, they are aggressive. And, most people cannot tame them. And not for everyone. My old nile gave pretty nasty bites for such a young monitor. When I first got my savannah, he was timid around me, and did not trust me. So, therefore, he was a biter. But after a few weeks of handling him, he turned right around! Now, out of my monitors, he is my favorite! I trust this little guy. He is has a light blue to his coloring, and has very pretty circles. I let him run around my room. I keep him in a 100 gallon tank. You want to use UTH'S (under tank heaters), never heat rocks. They can do major damage to your monitors belly. You NEVER want to buy a nile, and a savannah, and put them in the same cage together. They will fight to death. You should get the savannah. If you deciede to get two, put them in SEPERATE cages. Never the same. Feeding will get quiet expensive though. For 3 fuzzies that I feed my baby, is 7$ a bag. Which is pretty pricy.

Well I hope this info helped. But remember, think twice before getting a nile.


Look I am done VARANID. you are not worth fighting with. I have other things to do, rather than waste my time.

green_babe77@yahoo.com

Baby Savannah Monitor Help?




Jennifer S


I have a baby savannah monitor, and I do not know what gender it is. Its name is Ghidra and I think its about 2-3 months old maybe. I measured him in at 10 inches long yesterday. I feed him about 2-3 times a day large adult crickets. Its not interested in waxworms or mealworms, but it sure eats like a porker. About 5-6 crickets are consumed per feeding, and I feed him everyday. It lets me pick it up and pet it rather easily with no biting or violent behavior. Its been almost a week since I got it, I dont think it was that big when I bought it. I dont handfeed it but I allow it to "see" me drop its food into its tank. Its currently in a 55 gal tank with paper towel bedding, large branches to climb on, and kept at 90-95 degrees during the day 80 at night. This is the first monitor I have ever had and I want to make sure I am taking good care of it. Seems to be thriving, havent had any problems or signs of stress or illness. I have experience in reptiles for about 10 years caring for tropical and desert species. This is my first monitor and I want to make sure I am on the right track.

Please do not respond with a link as an answer, I am looking for an answer from an experienced monitor reptile owner not some person looking for some points. Thank you.



Answer
You're asking for a lot of info with out a link. I could give it a try. But, where to start? Aquarium? Loose it your Savannah monitor will out grow that in one year. Aquariums are almost impossible to keep humidity and temps correct. You would be better off to keep it in a 2ftx4ftx2ft plywood enclosure. You might wan to think about starting on your finished enclosure. Your full grown Savannah monitor will require an enclosure 4ftx8ftx4ft. With at least 19-24 inches of diggable substrate. Savannah monitors are deep burrowers and will use it all. If you insist on keeping him in the aquarium til you build an adequate enclosure. Here are a few tips. cover the top of your aquarium with plywood. Cut a hole in it for your basking light. Keep your aquarium at least 3 feet off the ground. This should help keep humidity up. Loose the paper towel "substrate". Keeping your monitor on paper towel or newspaper will cause serious health problems. Put a 50/50 mix of sand and soil in there. Something that holds moisture and creates a good dig able substrate. Moist not wet. When you compress the soil and release it, it should hold its shape. As far as temps. It will be hard to keep a hot and cool side. Make sure your monitor has plenty of hides. something it can wedge itself underneath and feel safe. Basking temp should be between 120f-140f. Hot side 90f-99f. cool side 80f-90f. One other note. Quit handling it. You're only going to stress it out. Force handling and "taming" will cause one of two outcomes. An overly aggressive monitor or a lethargic one that has given up. Monitors don't like to be handled. "Taming" will only break their spirit. When picked up, a healthy monitor should thrash, tail whip and scratch, to try and escape. Human interaction should only be on their terms. Allow them to come to you. Given time and proper trust building. You can achieve a state of tolerance. Make no assumption s they will never be "tame". And, if you want something you can pet and hold you should get rid of it and buy a puppy. I might also suggest you join a monitor forum. There is a lot of bogus info out there on keeping monitors. A forum can provide you with some experienced handlers that can give you good advice. If you want to do some more research. Or cross reference any of the info I provided. I will supply a link. http://savannahmonitor.org/ Read it or not. Many experienced handlers recommend it.




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